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Title: Brexit
Post by: 2 of 3 on June 22, 2016, 04:58:48 pm
It's going to be interesting. My question though is this. Do you think there is enough time no matter how it goes to affect the US election? IF the UK decides to leave the EU and the economy takes a hit as predicted, does that translate well to either Donald or Hillary? And Vise Versa if they stay in the EU. It is a bit of a mirror image to what's happening in each country. It seems the people who want out of the EU would fit in quite nicely with the Trump supporters. OR..I should stop reading the Daily Mail. Duh ! ;D
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: kylenz on June 23, 2016, 02:59:37 am
The only movie you need to see is this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYqzcqDtL3k - it lays it all out VERY clear.

And yes, I guess you could equate the 'leave' side with Trump supporters because if you watch that documentary, you will quickly realise that the EU is actually run by thousands of bureaucrats being paid MUCH more than a Prime Minister's salary, making money off the backs of hardworking taxpayers and running their own ponzi scheme that benefits NOBODY BUT THEMSELVES - in other words, the very same Establishment that Donald Trump is fighting against on his home soil.

Please watch that documentary, it is so very well-done.

My instincts tell me that the EU will ensure than there is no way for the UK to leave the EU, regardless of the result. If the UK left the EU, it would begin a domino effect of every country leaving, and that would be disastrous for those special interests and paper-pushers and their continued existence. I think PM Cameron once said that it would 'ensure Armageddon' if the UK left. Nope - he's just worried about not having a cosy seat on the gravy train in Brussels once he's turfed out of Parliament.

The very same ludicrous nonsense spouted by the media whenever Donald Trump says something that in the real world makes perfect sense - but they find a way of making it sound alarming and offensive. Why? Because the media are owned and funded by one man - Gorge Soros. He is also the one pushing for keeping the EU intact AND flooding all borders with North African & Syrian migrants. If Trump is president, he will put Soros's crooked pal Hillary Clinton in jail and Obama will be goneburger too - the RINO Establishment (Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney etc) will all be goneburger. The broom will be swept clean. The globalists like Soros and the Clintons will lose their grip over all world affairs. There will be no more nonsense and interference in the Middle East to fund ISIS and cause this destabilisation. All roads in the whole thing lead back to Soros, and Trump's the only hope we have of ridding the world of this corrupt vermin. It might not seem like it, but you think about who owns the media. You google up how many organisations Soros donates millions to - all the tv networks, all the newspapers, 'liberal'/left-wing blog sites, petition sites, the Democratic party - he controls and funds EVERYTHING.

But yeah, I think the Brexit vote will be a farce. Soros and the EU will simply not allow the UK to leave.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: 2 of 3 on June 23, 2016, 08:25:01 am
Thanks for that Kyle. I'll watch it when I get a chance. My problem is...I don't believe anybody. :P

I wish there was a massive computer simulation where you could feed ALL the information into the program and get some sort of idea of what would be the LOGICAL thing to do. Let's face it...people are weird. You put enough people into a room and tell them 1+1=3...drill it into them for long enough, and you'll come up with a group who believe it. The trouble is...we would also get a group who believes it's 4.  What I want is all the info without the bias.

Or at least spray an anti-corruption vaccine in the contrails. That's what is killing the planet.  :P :-[
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: kylenz on June 23, 2016, 07:01:15 pm
So did you see the Brexit documentary? There's no bias in that doco. They talk to actual high-level politicians from all sides of the political spectrum, actual leaders of industries affected by the EU's regulatory requirements such as the North Sea fishermen - they talk to people on the streets. Half of it is a straight-out history documentary using Pathe library footage to illustrate how the EU was formed and the economic issues that led to it.

It's really well-done. If all of us were too afraid to watch something out of fear that it 'may be biased', then the reality is we would not be able to watch anything. People tune into their news at night and it is the 21st Century Western equivalent of Cold War era-Pravda Russian propaganda, thanks to George Soros - and people still think the news is at least 'somewhat balanced' - it's all a big lie. The same kind of thing Hitler spoke of in Mein Kampf in that you can get away with a massive lie if it is colossal enough and that is exactly what they do.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: kylenz on June 23, 2016, 07:07:54 pm
It's looking like the vote is going to go with 'Remain' anyway - as expected. They would never allow the UK to leave regardless of the result. Remember they did the same with Greece - the Greeks overwhelmingly voted to get out of the EU but their govt betrayed them and indentured them in a deeper economic quagmire, agreeing to an 11th hour bailout deal with the EU.

Just like the Hotel California, you can check out any time you like - but you can never leave!  ;D
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: 2 of 3 on June 23, 2016, 10:04:11 pm
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If all of us were too afraid to watch something out of fear that it 'may be biased', then the reality is we would not be able to watch anything. 

Well, I'm not afraid to watch. I watched it. Very interesting. Did you really watch that and not think there was bias? It was 100% one-sided. That's ok of course....now it's my job to find the other bias and make my own decision. I hate that, though. Dammit...just give me both sides on one show! Grrr.  ;D

Obviously, after watching the movie...it makes it look really bad.(didn't surprise me at all)...but I need the opposite view too. I like to be an equal opportunity slagger.  ;D
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: 2 of 3 on June 23, 2016, 10:43:46 pm
It's looking like LEAVE is going to win. With 70% of the vote counted, Leave is 1 million votes ahead. The Pound already taking a beating. I blame smart phones. Nobody knows how to use an eraser anymore.  ;) ;D

I kid!  :D
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: kylenz on June 23, 2016, 11:43:14 pm
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If all of us were too afraid to watch something out of fear that it 'may be biased', then the reality is we would not be able to watch anything. 

Well, I'm not afraid to watch. I watched it. Very interesting. Did you really watch that and not think there was bias? It was 100% one-sided. That's ok of course....now it's my job to find the other bias and make my own decision. I hate that, though. Dammit...just give me both sides on one show! Grrr.  ;D

Obviously, after watching the movie...it makes it look really bad.(didn't surprise me at all)...but I need the opposite view too. I like to be an equal opportunity slagger.  ;D

So, to correct the 'bias', do you think there should've been another documentary made, speaking from the Brussels bureaucrats' point of view? Either you're on the side of ordinary people, or you're on the side of fat-cat globalists. I know which side I'm on.

And yep, looks like 'Leave' got the vote. For some reason they expected Wales to stay in by an overwhelming amount, but the opposite was the case. Now why on Earth would the ordinary Welsh person want to be dictated to by the EU? Some of these polls and predictions are a bit baffling. And they get people like that lightweight comedian John Oliver speaking as if he is some kind of 'expert'. And now I guess there will be all kinds of dire economic predictions coming down the pike. Of course it will bring these globalist powers economic uncertainty - their gravy train is under threat after all!!  ;D ;) ;)
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: 2 of 3 on June 24, 2016, 05:43:50 am
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So, to correct the 'bias', do you think there should've been another documentary made, speaking from the Brussels bureaucrats' point of view?

Yes and No. I'd like to know what the benefits of staying in the EU are....but not from those greedy corrupt beggers. I just want facts without the bias. I want the Beatles without Yoko.  :)